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Open Thread – The Elections.

Tomorrow is election day here in the states and frankly we can’t wait for it to be over. Frankly, we are a bit tired.

We know that we have put lot of time and effort into getting facts out there. We have been attacked by people who don’t like facts and certainly that is their right.

The bottom line for us is that while we have been doing a lot of talking, we wanted to set up this thread for you. Say whatever you want in the comments. Make your last pitch for a cause or candidate. Keep it civil, of course, but put your thoughts out there. We want to hear from you.

Have at it.

The Staff at Raised on Hoecakes.

Nicolas Tomboulides Drops The Mic.

We don’t know who Nicolas is, but he earns the best ‘mic drop” of the day award.


Gillum Staffer Says Voters “Not For Them To Know” Promises Won’t Happen; FL “F***ed” Cracker State”

“Modern day fairy tales begin with once I am elected.”

Project Veritas Action Fund has released undercover video from Florida gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum’s campaign, revealing his election strategy includes making empty promises to voters.

• Empty Promises Exposed: “Fairy tales in the modern day begin with ‘once I am elected.'”
• Deceiving Voters: “None of the programs that people are hoping for would happen” but “That’s not for [voters] to know.”
• Candidate’s True Politics: “Gillum is a Progressive” and “He is a part of the crazy, crazy, crazies.”
• Election Strategy: “You whip ’em up. The poor, the middle income. You have to whip them up into a frenzy in order for them to vote.”
• Secret Gun Control Agenda Revealed: “three day waiting period for everybody,” “small steps” to ban assault rifles; “I don’t think he can say it [be]cause he’s trying to get the moderates”
• Florida is a “F***ed up,” “cracker state,” “you have to appeal to white guilt”

Sadly, we are jaded to the point where we think most politicians will not tell the truth just to get elected.

However, the racial aspect of this is appalling and should be condemned by all.

Andrew Gillium Not Being Truthful Again.

According to the Tallahassee Democrat:

An undercover FBI agent posing as an Atlanta developer seeking to do business with the city of Tallahassee was billed for food and drinks for a 2016 fundraiser for Mayor Andrew Gillum’s nascent political action committee, documents released Friday show.

The Forward Florida PAC would eventually become the war chest for Gillum’s gubernatorial campaign. It is the first piece of evidence linking an ongoing FBI probe to Gillum’s broader campaign for statewide office.

The emails and receipts released Friday as part of a supplemental records request from the Florida Commission on Ethics show that the agent, Mike Miller, was invoiced $4,386 by 101 Restaurant and Mint Lounge, a restaurant owned by lobbyist Adam Corey at the time. An email exchange shows that Miller paid the bill and that Gillum sent him a personal thank you note for the food.

The email and the bill, from document dump from Adam Corey.
— Skip Foster (@skipfoster) October 26, 2018

Corey is a central figure in an FBI corruption investigation in Tallahassee. The documents were released by his attorney, Chris Kise, who is a longtime Republican Party activist and adviser to governors Charlie Crist and Rick Scott.

Kise has been accused by Democrats of a witch hunt, but he said the facts speak for themselves.

“Facts are not partisan. They are facts,” Kise said. “I am only doing my job for my client. I didn’t make up the facts nor did he. When you can’t refute the obvious facts you then attack the messenger.”

The State’s Ethics Commission is looking into this and other allegations. After initially subpoenaing roughly 80 pages of documents, the Commission has asked for more.

Andrew Gillium, Hamilton, And Race.

Andrew Gillium is the Democrat Mayor of Tallahassee who is running for governor of the State of Florida against Republican Rick DeSantis who served in the House of Representatives.

By most accounts, the race is tight and should go down to the wire.

However, a new accusation has surfaced claiming Gillium illegally received benefits from his job and has lied to the people about it.

Undercover FBI agents paid for Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum’s hotel room and his ticket to the Broadway musical Hamilton during a 2016 trip to New York City, according to a bombshell trove of records that raises new questions two weeks before the Nov. 6 election for Florida governor.

Among the records released Tuesday: photos, a video and dozens of text messages between Gillum, who is the Democratic nominee for governor, former lobbyist Adam Corey and an undercover FBI agent. They appear to contradict Gillum’s explanation for the expenses, which have been made an major issue by his Republican rival, Ron DeSantis.

Gillum’s campaign has maintained — and continued to do so Tuesday after the records were released — that Gillum’s brother, Marcus, handed him the ticket the night of the show.

But text messages at the time of the trip show Gillum was told the tickets came from “Mike Miller,” an FBI agent looking into city corruption who was posing as a developer.

“Mike Miller and the crew have tickets for us for Hamilton tonight at 8 p.m.,” Corey texted Gillum on Aug. 10, 2016.

“Awesome news about Hamilton,” Gillum replied, according to the records.
The campaign has not said how Marcus Gillum, who lives in Chicago, came by such a sought-after Broadway ticket, or whether Andrew Gillum asked his brother about it.

Okay, so Gillium took tickets for the show “Hamilton” and is trying to say that he thought they were from his brother. If that were the whole story, that would be fine.

Bill Nelson Hits New Low.

This may be a new low for Bill Nelson or even for politics.

Florida Democratic Senator Bill Nelson sent out an email and a tweet asking for people to help in the form of donations to the people affected by Hurricane Michael. Certainly there is nothing wrong with anyone – including politicians – getting the word out that relief organizations can use help after devastating events such as a hurricane.

Here’s the tweet:

There is a problem, however. A big problem in our minds.

We Should All Condemn This. (But Will We?)

We’re back on Palm Bay for this post but with a situation that seems to affect all elections and races these days: signs.

Even we get tired of the electioneering signs for various candidates. They seem to be everywhere and as the election draws near, you’ll see more signs.

Unfortunately, there are people who don’t like the signs of candidates they don’t support. In Cocoa Beach, a candidate’s signs are moved or stolen. In Palm Bay, Parr supporters seem to be playing a childish game of re-arranging not only Parr signs, but signs of other candidates so the opponent’s signs are less visible. (It’s against the law to do that, but that doesn’t seem to stop people.)

Far above and beyond this are the signs of Thomas Gaume who is running against Kenny Johnson Jr.

Gaume posted an image of one of his larger signs on private property at the corner of Malabar and Eldron that was attacked and basically destroyed.

Someone decided to rip Gaume’s sign up.

And it is not the only sign this has happened to:

The Results.

We know that there are other so called “experts” who are analyzing the election results from Tuesday much more and perhaps more insightfully than we ever could. Frankly, we don’t live and breath politics and every post we make is not political in nature. We have always thought we were a little more “man on the street” than the “experts” who manage to get more things wrong than we do.

The following is simply our impressions of what happened on Tuesday. It is by no means comprehensive in nature as we just don’t want to get that deep into every race. We are going to try and stick with the local, Brevard County races.


The good result here is not so much that Campbell won, but that Andy Ziegler and Dean Paterakis lost.

We can’t remember a time when two people who have constantly fought each other in a self serving manner at the expense of the public. We hope these two are consigned to the political scrap heap of Brevard County.


This is the first of our “we don’t need term limits, we need “NONE OF THE ABOVE” on the ballots” race.

Since Nye lost, we’ll just ask “where does Thad Altman live again?”


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