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Since The Opinions Of Some Are Dismissed, How About These Guys?

Something to think about from “POC.”


We guess this guy should be ignored too?



4 Responses to “Since The Opinions Of Some Are Dismissed, How About These Guys?”

  1. POC says:

    Not sure what angle you are going for by saying “We guess this guy should be ignored too?” As a POC 99% of us agree that the senseless killings are not ok, and I’m willing to bet at least 95% of POC live normal day to day lives like everyone else, and not the small cross section shown on the daily news, and portrayed in movies as murderous thugs. His point of saying people need to be out in the community, is in fact happening, BUT that is never reported on…so I guess “we should ignore that too?” For him or anyone else to chastise Chicago, but then turn around and say I don’t live there, Chicago is not my responsibility is basically contradicting the very message he is trying to put out. I agreed with him up until that point. He wants POC to do something about the communities, but Chicago is not his responsibility, BUT he is a POC. Then to wear a Trump hat it seems being in support of him, a man known to blow dog whistles, and use racist rhetoric is another glaring contradiction in the video. Also, for him to call other people fake and to say he has never seen the KKK, he knows they exist, but is dismissive of that terrorist origination since he has never seen them, yet he continues to rail on Chicago, where he does not live, and is not responsible for. I won’t dismiss HIS opinion on the matter, because it is indeed his opinion, but for this site to use his video seems to be saying, see white people are right in their thinking, because this one black guy wearing a trump hat says exactly what we say. So again, exactly what angle was this site going for in saying “We guess this guy should be ignored too?”

    • AAfterwit says:

      POC,

      Thanks for the comment.

      The angle we are going for is that here is a former cop, a black cop, who the BLM movement and others would dismiss first for being a cop, and the second for being black and not going with the narrative of BLM and other “woke” people.

      We have seen, and most likely so have you, blacks like Tatum being attacked for their views, and in the process be called the n-word, “Uncle Tom,” “house n****,” etc.

      Conservative POC are routinely dismissed and their voices marginalized, just as you have done in the your comment.

      His overall point is one that we agree with: while BLM and other groups were out protesting and in some cases looting and burning, kids and POC are dying from POC on POC crimes. What would happen if the rage of BLM was turned onto communities where the message is “we aren’t going to take the killings and the crime any more” instead of “burn it all down?”

      And for the record, we have seen, read about and applaud groups that are trying to end violence in neighborhoods. Your comment of “BUT that is never reported on…” is factually false.

      I won’t dismiss HIS opinion on the matter, ….

      And yet you did just that.

      ….. see white people are right in their thinking, because this one black guy wearing a trump hat says exactly what we say.

      Thanks for making our point. While you dismiss Tatum, you seem to think that white people all think the same way. You seem to think that people of a certain race of color are monolithic in their thinking. That’s not only wrong, that’s dangerous.

      We don’t dismiss or support anyone on the basis of their race as you appear to be doing.

      That’s really the issue isn’t it?

      Are people willing to allow all points of view at the table to discuss, or are people with differing opinions not even allowed at the table, but not allowed in the building?

      That’s the point of our posting the video.

      Thanks again.

      A. Afterwit.

      P.S. If you don’t understand it by now, take a look at this post a few posts down: Terry Crews And A “Hill To Die On.

      Same thing. A person makes a comment that makes a great deal of sense and is attacked by others and accused of being “white,” an “Uncle Tom,” a “house n****” and a host of other names.

  2. POC says:

    Ah so your ending question of we guess this guy should be ignored too is in your words factually wrong as well, because he is not, and others are not being ignored for voicing their view. I commend the man for being a cop…not a BLACK cop, but a COP, as that is a very hard job to do no matter what race.

    I never dismissed Tate, as I agreed with some of his points up until he shirked the responsibility that he was saying POC should take, by saying it’s not his responsibility. Agreeing with his points in itself is a non dismissal of his opinion taken as a whole.

    To say BLM and others would dismiss him is also factually false, as BLM has and do work with LEO to help resolve community issues. To take the mass protesting and lump it all under one umbrella as the BLM organization is another false narrative. Some people were opportunistic with the looting in the moment of peaceful protesting, which again, most POC did not and do not agree with the violence, looting, and burning of buildings.

    Instead you throw up a singular view of a person that was a former cop to imply his view is being ignored. I never mentioned the fact that he was a cop, because it had no bearing on my reply to what he was saying.

    I know exactly what he can and will be called, but since you brought up him being a cop, my question to you or him is while he was a cop, was he protecting his brothers and sisters in blue by not speaking up when they themselves did not follow the law, or did he have just as much outrage when they broke the law, to form the blue wall for a coverup. If he at any point did not speak up when his brothers and sisters in blue did wrong, then he has zero leg to stand on for his outrage, and can in turn be called a fake.

    He should have that same outrage towards his fellow LEOs, as he does towards POC for their non action in doing the right things in public. And before you attempt to say it, yes there is a small minority of cops that are bad…perhaps you and everyone else should use that same logic and apply it towards POC, because what you may see on the nightly news is the small minority.

    I don’t know the man, nor do I know his record, so I would hope he did indeed speak up each and every time, since he is now making videos trying to tell other POC what they should be doing.

    • AAfterwit says:

      POC,

      Thanks for the comment.

      Ah so your ending question of we guess this guy should be ignored too is in your words factually wrong as well, because he is not, and others are not being ignored for voicing their view.

      He, like many others, are being attacked for both being a cop and a black man who offers a different point of view.

      To say BLM and others would dismiss him is also factually false, as BLM has and do work with LEO to help resolve community issues.

      How is demanding the defunding of police in both cities and on campuses working “with LEO to help resolve community issues?” Fact is it doesn’t, but yet in many cases that what BLM is demanding.

      I know exactly what he can and will be called, …..

      And the calling of him those names will mean his voice will be ignored. That’s what that type of ad hominem attack is all about. It attacks the person rather than any points or thoughts the person has. The ad hominem attacks, by definition, means he will be dismissed.

      ….and can in turn be called a fake.

      There ya go. Without any shred of evidence, you are willing to dismiss him because he was a cop.

      ….you and everyone else should use that same logic and apply it towards POC, because what you may see on the nightly news is the small minority.

      Project much? We have never – not once, never – condemned POC for all the crimes.

      The very sentiment – that there are good people and bad people of all races and professions – was made by Terry Crews (and others including us) and for that he was attacked and called names. (Once again, ad hominem attacks.) We don’t think is point is very assailable, but yet it was and people dismissed him for not falling in line.

      A. Afterwit.

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