“Fighting Words.”

Last night at the County Commission meeting there were lots of speakers and lots of people on both sides of the Lober issue making statements that made little sense to us.

There was a call for an “ethics committee” and “citizen review boards” to review the conduct of Commissioners.

All of the proposals have legal problems and we won’t address them here at this point in time.

One thing we will take on is comments by on “Robert Burns,” who is helped run Kenny Johnson’s campaign in Palm Bay and is looking to move up the political chain. He has appeared on this blog making what we considered false statements.

During public comments, Burns addressed the issue of the doctrine of “fighting words” as it applies to the First Amendment and Lober’s comments. (It would also apply to other comments, but who said what, when, is not the issue.)

After his comments, Burns received applause which would be great except for one thing: Burns was wrong on the facts of the doctrine of “fighting words.”

Burns said:

Oh Noes! An “Electronic Petition” Against Bryan Lober!

A Facebook group called “Brevard Ethics” has started an online petition on concerning Brevard County Commissioner Byran Lober.

The petition was brought to our attention because it mentions us. (More on that in a moment.)

First, let’s get the basics out of the way….

Online petitions are not worth the paper they are printed on. This petition is no exception to that rule.

Online petitions are easy to set up, don’t cost anything and don’t take any real time or effort. There is also the fact that the petitions may be signed by people who are outside of the physical location of the people the petition wants to address. By that we mean it is very easy on social media to get friends to sign a petition that deals with Brevard County even though they don’t live within the County itself. We don’t know about you, but we don’t care what someone in Nome, Alaska has to say about a local politician by the name of Bryan Lober.

The other issue is that it is possible to “sign” the same petition multiple times. acknowledges that problem:

Brevard County: Some Commissioners Comment On Lober’s Comments.

In an article in Florida Today, some County Commissioners have commented on Commissioner Lober’s recent comments and spats on Facebook.

Let’s start with Commissioner Curt Smith of District 4:

County Commissioner Curt Smith said Lober’s comments are “disappointing.”

“This kind of conduct drags us all down in the gutter,” Smith said. “I find what he said very disturbing. I don’t think the comments were befitting the professional conduct people hold us to as elected officials.”

That’s fairly strong and while Smith later says he is not sure what they can do about it, at least he is out there saying Lober’s comments were wrong.

Brevard County: Why Lober’s Comments Are Not Only A Party Issue.

(image courtesy of Florida Today.)

As with many things, it started small….a spark….a bad “joke” and stupid comments on Facebook.

The comments made by Brevard County Commissioner Bryan Lober has left many scratching their heads.

Then this one:

Brevard County: Children’s Services Council On The Agenda For Tomorrow.

(note: The logo in the image is from the Florida Children’s Council which is “an association of Children’s Services Councils statewide.” If the Brevard Children’s Services Council has a logo, we couldn’t find it.)

We have written far too much about the interaction between the Children’s Services Council (CSC) and the Brevard County Commission. To say the least, some of that interaction has not only not been pleasant, it has been down right acrimonious.

When we last left the coverage of the battle, the CSC was suing the Commission for what the CSC claimed was the illegal “dissolution” of the CSC by ordinance saying that as the CSC was created through public vote, it has to be dissolved by public vote. The Commission, for their part, claims they could dissolve the CSC at any time and take any money the CSC had in their coffers.

The County Commission authorized the County Attorney to go after the money which was being held by other organizations until the legal dispute was resolved.

We have never taken a position on the existence of the CSC itself, but we have taken positions on the legality of the ordinance and the County literally threatening individuals and organizations. While the people and the organizations have to use their funds to defend themselves, the County is using taxpayer dollars to essentially sue charities. We don’t think that is a good look or smart on the behalf of the County.

However, the CSC is back on the agenda for the Brevard County Commission this Thursday at 3:30 PM.

Here’s the agenda:

Brevard County: Glass Houses And Stones.

We mentioned Nicolas Tomboulides in a “drop the mic” moment as well as his use of “hoecaked” as a verb previously.

Tomboulides posted this on FaceBook, which was reposted then by County Commissioner Bryan Lober:

Perhaps it was meant to be funny, but it wasn’t.

Brevard County: Well, That Went Swimmingly.

This past Tuesday, May 21, 2019 the Brevard County Commission held a regular meeting. You can find the agenda and the video here.

This was the first meeting after the arrest of David Isnardi, the husband of Commissioner and Chair Kristine Isnardi. It may have been kismet, but she was out of town attending the graduation of her son from a military school in Virginia. That left the meeting to be chaired by Commissioner Bryan Lober.

Lober represented David Isnardi for bond hearings in what many people consider to be the appearance of impropriety.

We suspected the topic of the appearance of impropriety and the alleged corruption in Palm Bay would come up during public comments, and it did. What we did not expect was the level of animosity coming from the audience and from Commissioner Lober.

An article in the FloridaToday tells the tale:

Adrian Moss-Beasley.

It was 2012 and Brevard was in the midst of what people have said was the most acrimonious election seasons on memory. There was an all out war for the Clerk of the Courts office. The Property Appraiser’s race was full of salacious accusations and counter accusations.

Several of our staff were interviewing candidates for a local radio show. We made a pact not to do any “gotcha” moments or anything like that. We weren’t looking for “ambush journalism” rather than asking questions that would allow candidates to make their points and highlight where they agreed with their opponents and where they disagreed. We wanted to let people see the differences in the candidates and their positions.

There were some races and discussions that afterwards, we wanted to take a shower and hopefully wipe away the mud and the stench that had been slung. There were races that after the interviews, we looked at each other and said “are these the best candidates we have?” It was that bad.

But then there was the race for Brevard County Sheriff to replace the then retiring Jack Parker.

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