Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite.

(idea courtesy JM:o)

(idea courtesy JM:o)

Liberte. Egalite. Fraternite.

Literally “liberty, equality, fraternity.” The motto of the French Republic.

From Wikipedia:

The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen of 1789 defined Liberty in Article 4 as follows:

Liberty consists of being able to do anything that does not harm others: thus, the exercise of the natural rights of every man or woman has no bounds other than those that guarantee other members of society the enjoyment of these same rights.

A few days ago, “liberty” found itself attacked when two murderous gunman attacked people in an around the offices of magazine Charlie Hebdo. The attacks were in retaliation for the magazine publishing cartoons that insulted the Mohammed, the prophet of Islam.

Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_DayThis is not the first time Muslims have threatened or killed people who, in their opinion, “insulted Islam.” Writer Salman Rushdie was threatened and as far as we know, still has a death “fatwa” issued against him for his novel “Satanic Verses.” Dutch film director Theo van Gogh was murdered by a Muslim after van Gogh directed a film that was critical of the treatment of women in Islam. In 2010, cartoonists Trey Parker and Matt Stone received death threats after Mohammed was drawn into episodes of the show South Park. The Comedy Central network changed the episodes so the characters of Mohammed would not appear because Muslim run web sites began to publish the addresses of the Comedy Central offices and the production company where South Part was produced. In response, cartoonist Molly Sanders drew a satirical cartoon called “Everyone Draw Mohammed Day” which depicted Mohammed in various ways. While the cartoon was satire, the internet picked up on the idea and an actual “Everyone Draw Mohammed Day” was held on May 20, 2010. Though Sanders distanced herself from the actual day, she too received death threats to the point where the FBI advised her to change her name and go underground, which she did.

Threats of violence and actual violence are not uncommon from those who follow the religion of Islam.

“We’re Offended” Is No Excuse For Restricting The First Amendment.

(EDITOR’S NOTE: On June 16, 1858, Abraham Lincoln stood in front of the Republican Convention and accepted their nomination to be the Republican candidate for the Senator from Illinois. The speech came to be known as “the House Divided” speech. During World War II, Lincoln’s words of “I believe this government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free” were paraphrased to be “This world cannot exist half slave and half free, work for freedom!” and appeared on posters throughout the land. The graphic to the left reflects that although time has passed, the sentiment remains the same.)

It has come to this.

In the wake of the attacks against the American Consulate in Benghazi, Libya resulting in the deaths of three Americans – former SEALs Ty Woods and Glen Doherty and US Ambassador Christopher Stevens – there have been calls for the limitation of freedom of speech from outside the country. These calls have been based on the false premise that a movie trailer incited the violence in Libya. Some here in the US have likened the movie trailer to “shouting ‘fire!’ in a crowded theater.”

Jonah Goldberg of the National Review lays waste to that argument from an intellectual standpoint:

And yet, it seems you can’t turn on National Public Radio or open a newspaper or a highbrow magazine without finding some oh-so-thoughtful meditation on how anti-Islamic speech should be considered the equivalent of shouting “fire” in a movie theater.

It’s an interesting comparison. First, the prohibition on yelling “fire” in a theater only applies to instances where there is no fire. A person who yells “fire” when there is, in fact, a fire is quite likely a hero. I’m not saying that the people ridiculing Mohammed — be they the makers of the Innocence of Muslims trailer or the editors of a French magazine — have truth on their side. But blasphemy is not a question of scientific fact, merely of opinion. And in America we give a very wide legal berth to the airing of such opinions. Loudly declaring “it is my opinion there is a fire in here” is not analogous to declaring “it is my opinion that Mohammed was a blankety-blank.”

You know why? Because Muslims aren’t fire, they’re people. And fire isn’t a sentient entity, it is a force of nature bereft of choice or cognition of any kind. Just as water seeks its own level, fire burns what it can burn. Muslims have free will. If they choose to riot, that’s not the same thing as igniting a fire.

Indeed, the point is proven by the simple fact that the vast majority of Muslims don’t riot. More than 17 million people live in greater Cairo. A tiny fraction of a fraction of that number stormed the U.S. embassy to “protest” that stupid video. And yet, the logic seems to be that the prime authors of Muslim violence are non-Muslims who express their opinions, often thousands of miles away.

The online satire magazine “the Onion” showed the fallacy of blaming the speaker for actions of others thousands of miles away in a more “Onion-esque” way by first printing this graphic, (WARNING: NSFW) and then writing:

Amidst The Hatred, There Is Always Hope.

There are many people in the world who hate those of the Jewish faith. Many of those people are Muslim. There are many people in the world who hate those of the Islamic faith. Many of those people are Jewish.

Jews, Gentiles, Muslims, Catholic, Protestants, Hindu…… it doesn’t matter. Too often the faith to which a person allegedly lovingly ascribes results in an accompanying hatred of those in another faith.

Certainly there is a great deal of hatred to go around and much of that hatred has a component of faith, or lack of faith, to it.

We don’t want to give the impression that we are some pollyannish believer who wants to gather everyone around a campfire and sing “Kumbaya” or “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.” We are not that naive. We know there is great hatred in the world between those of certain religious beliefs and those without religious beliefs.

That being said, a story coming out of New York has caught our eye.

Coney Island Bialys and Bagels claims to be the oldest bialy bakery in New York City. Founded in 1920, it’s faced hard economic times and changing neighborhood demographics.

Now, the shop has been rescued by two Pakistani Muslims — and they’re keeping it kosher.

You read that right. A Jewish bagel store has been bought by two Muslims who are keeping the store kosher.

It is more than that though. One of the men who is taking over the store, Zafaryab Alimen, worked for the Jewish owners for over a decade.

Holy bagels and lox Batman! Jews and Muslims working together for over a decade!

There are going to be skeptics to this and maybe rightfully so. In the comments of the linked NPR article, there are accusations of the profits from the store now going to fund terrorism, rejoicing at the failure of a “dirty Jews,” etc. (And we would bet many of those who make those comments consider themselves “good ::insert name of religion here::”)

A Cucumber and a Pickle Walk Into a Mosque…….

Usually we do not like attacking the false teachings of other religions. We would rather allow the truth of Christianity to stand on its own.

Whether it be the so called “separation of church and state,” the “war on Christmas,” or the words of every pastor who calls themselves a Christian being blasted, skinned, parsed and broadcast whenever there is what someone feels is an “issue,” clearly Christianity is under the microscope.

Remember Pastor Terry Jones? The Florida pastor who was condemned across the world for saying he was going to burn the Koran? How many times have we seen quotes from Jerry Falwell, or Pat Robertson used to denigrate Christianity and its followers?

We are therefore puzzled by the lack of media coverage of a Muslim cleric who has insulted half the population of the world – the female half.

An Islamic cleric residing in Europe said that women should not be close to bananas or cucumbers, in order to avoid any “sexual thoughts.”

The unnamed sheikh, who was featured in an article on el-Sawsana news, was quoted saying that if women wish to eat these food items, a third party, preferably a male related to them such as their a father or husband, should cut the items into small pieces and serve.

He said that these fruits and vegetables “resemble the male penis” and hence could arouse women or “make them think of sex.”

He also added carrots and zucchini to the list of forbidden foods for women.


Islamophobic, Racist,…… Hey….. Whatever Works.

In February, 2011, Israeli Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren walked to the podium at the University of California, Irvine to give a speech.

It was not to be.

In the crowd were Muslims who were intent on shouting down Oren. Eleven times an individual student would rise and shout at the Ambassador. Shouts of “Michael Oren, propagating murder is not an expression of free speech!” and “how many Palestinians did you kill?” rained down on Oren as he he tried to speak. As each person was led away by the police, the pro-Palestinian members of the audience clapped, stomped, hollered and boo’ed to the point where the speech was ended early.

One of the Chancellors of the school repeatedly told the crowd that if they continued to disrupt the event, they would be arrested and charged.

And that is exactly what happened.

Eleven people were arrested that February night and charged with misdemeanors.

Not surprisingly, the 11 claimed they were exercising their First Amendment rights of free speech. After dropping the charges against one of the men, Prosecutor Dan Wagner went ahead with a trial against the remaining eleven.

On September 23, 2011, Judge Peter J. Wilson found the men guilty.

Orange County Superior Court Judge Peter J. Wilson sentenced the defendants to 56 hours of community service and three years of informal probation. The judge found that the incident did not merit jail time and he added that the probation period would be reduced to one year if the community service is completed by the end of January 2012. Minimal court fines and fees were also assessed against the 10.

The prosecutor claimed the men’s actions were not an exercise of their First Amendment rights, but a concerted effort to deny the remaining people in the audience and Ambassador Oren their same First Amendment rights. Wagner argued the First Amendment was in place to facilitate and encourage the free exchange of ideas. He further contended the men conspired to deny Oren and others rights to exchange ideas by disrupting the speech.

And Wagner had the emails sent between the men to prove it.

After the trial and the small sentences, the 10 men and their lawyers claimed they were the victims.

“I am both Muslim and Christian” – HUH?!?!?

A Reverend Ann Holmes Redding of Seattle says:

“I am both Muslim and Christian, just like I’m both an American of African descent and a woman. I’m 100 percent both.”

For the life of us, we can’t figure how this supposed woman of faith can believe this. We certainly cannot believe how she is allowed to teach the New Testament as a visiting assistant professor at Seattle University this fall.

Redding doesn’t feel she has to resolve all the contradictions. People within one religion can’t even agree on all the details, she said. “So why would I spend time to try to reconcile all of Christian belief with all of Islam?

“At the most basic level, I understand the two religions to be compatible. That’s all I need.”

“At the most basic level” is Jesus Christ. Who that man is defines each religion. To Christians, Jesus Christ is God incarnate. He is God in the flesh, who walked amongst us. To Muslims, Christ is not God, but a really good prophet, but not as good of a prophet as Mohammad.

In fact, Christ’s teaching of:

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6, NIV

is disputed by those within the Muslim faith. Not only it is disputed, it is blasphemy within Islam to teach Christ is the only path to heaven.

“Who Christ is” is not some minor detail such as being pre-trib, post-trib, or mid-trib. In fact, what most Christian denominations disagree about has nothing to do with the basic tenant of the faith.

“I Keel You!” – Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo

We don’t often talk about Muslim extremists and terrorism here at Raised on Hoecakes. It is not that we are not concerned, it is that there are so many other voices – voices with far more expertise than ours – that do a much better job of writing and discussing the threat of radical Islam and its affects on terrorism here and abroad.

When we first heard about the attacks in Oslo, we have to admit that our first thought was “oh no….. not another senseless attack by some radical, Muslim looking for 72 virgins.” In a way, that thought shows a bit of a bias – a prejudice if you will – on what is happening in the world. We automatically assumed that anyone that would bomb and shoot innocent people would be a Muslim. In some ways, we are ashamed of that thought. Terrorists and whackjobs, as we have learned, come in all different nationalities, races, and genders. Unlike others, we did not rush to put out a piece blaming Muslims or anyone for the Oslo killings.

We waited until more facts were known.

When Anders Behring Breivik was named as the alleged perpetrator of the Oslo attacks, we were shocked and surprised at the rush of many to label Breivik as a “Christian.” We addressed that issue in a previous post and believe our position concerning the “faith” of Breivik still stands.

Now comes this from

Dearborn Still Doesn’t Get It

Once again, Dearborn, Michigan shows how pathetic they are.

Once again, the issue is Pastor Terry Jones.

Once again, the issue is the right, guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, to express ideas – even ideas that are unpopular – in a public forum.

Once again, Dearborn demonstrates its lack of commitment to foundations of this country and the basic rights of all men.

Once again, Dearborn gets it completely, utterly and totally wrong.

Pastor Terry Jones, he of “burn the Koran” fame, has been fighting with the city of Dearborn, Michigan over the right to protest in front of Islamic Center located there. There has been great pressure from the local Muslim community to prevent Jones from making any protests. Indeed, a District Court Judge ruled that he could not protest on the public property outside of the mosque. Instead, Jones was told he had to protest in one of five “free speech zones” the city set established.

(Isn’t it nice to know that in Michigan, they believe that they can designate what is or is not a place where you have “free speech?”)

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